From zenitani at mac.com Thu Jan 4 10:10:12 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:10:12 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 824] utf-8m + Transparency 3 Message-ID: <2642A700-ED07-4E2B-804C-8E8083C5B168@mac.com> Folks, 1. I have revised utf-8m. The new one is compatible with emacs 23. http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/ 2. We are preparing a new transparency patch. http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macemacsjp/transparency3/ New elisp syntax is similar to that of Meadow 3 (popular Win32 port of Emacs). The argument should be an integer (0-100) or nil. The 'nil' is equivalent to '100' or opaque. (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha 80) (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha '( [])) (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha '(100 70)) (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha '(nil 70)) (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha nil) (set-alpha 80) (set-alpha '( [])) (set-alpha '(100 70)) (set-alpha '(nil 70)) (set-alpha nil) (setq frame-alpha-lower-limit 20) Reports from {Linux/BSD + X.org} users are highly welcome. If it works fine on non-proprietary platforms such as Linux/BSD, we can submit our patch to the emacs main developers, after emacs 22.1 will be released. Best wishes, Seiji From xah at xahlee.org Sat Jan 6 12:46:58 2007 From: xah at xahlee.org (xah lee) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 19:46:58 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 825] detecting Carbon Emacs In-Reply-To: <2642A700-ED07-4E2B-804C-8E8083C5B168@mac.com> References: <2642A700-ED07-4E2B-804C-8E8083C5B168@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, the font-changing code i use only works for carbon emacs, and not in other emacs. So, what's the function that detect if i'm running carbon emacs? Thanks. PS I have some emacs and elisp tutorials here: http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs.html i hope people here may find it interesting. Xah xah at xahlee.org ? http://xahlee.org/ From zenitani at mac.com Sat Jan 6 12:52:49 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:52:49 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 826] Re: detecting Carbon Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <2642A700-ED07-4E2B-804C-8E8083C5B168@mac.com> Message-ID: Try the following lines. Seiji (if (featurep 'carbon-emacs-package) (progn (something-to-do) (something-to-do) (something-to-do) )) On 2007/01/05, at 22:46, xah lee wrote: > Hi, > > the font-changing code i use only works for carbon emacs, and not > in other emacs. > > So, what's the function that detect if i'm running carbon emacs? > > Thanks. > > PS I have some emacs and elisp tutorials here: > http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs.html > i hope people here may find it interesting. > > Xah > xah at xahlee.org > ? http://xahlee.org/_______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From zenitani at mac.com Sun Jan 7 09:31:06 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 19:31:06 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 827] Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. '07) Message-ID: <5C51E813-D329-4835-AF1A-D81D75FCB95F@mac.com> Hi all, The January 2007 build is available. Please note that elisp syntax for the window transparency has been changed (See [macemacsjp-english 824]). http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html == Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com ============ ?????? 1??????????????? ????????????????? ?[Macemacsjp-users 1275] ??? http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-j.html == ???? zenitani at mac.com From xah at xahlee.org Tue Jan 9 06:39:13 2007 From: xah at xahlee.org (xah lee) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:39:13 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 828] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. '07) In-Reply-To: <5C51E813-D329-4835-AF1A-D81D75FCB95F@mac.com> References: <5C51E813-D329-4835-AF1A-D81D75FCB95F@mac.com> Message-ID: <4066BE46-7AF0-4063-AC98-CD1A22298A15@xahlee.org> With this new version, my .emacs loads much faster. The ability of using Mac's input system is nice. However, my usual emacs based input system seems to be broken. That is, M-x set-input-method chinese-py. It no longer works. (it just acts like a latin-system, with no chinese whatsoever) Do i need to set some config for the change? I particularly ? the emacs pinyin input system, because it's the only system i know where i can still use dvorak to type pinyin. Otherwise, this seems to be a better emacs! Thanks. Xah xah at xahlee.org ? http://xahlee.org/ On Jan 6, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Seiji Zenitani wrote: Hi all, The January 2007 build is available. Please note that elisp syntax for the window transparency has been changed (See [macemacsjp-english 824]). http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html == Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com ============ ?????? 1??????????????? ????????????????? ?[Macemacsjp-users 1275] ??? http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-j.html == ???? zenitani at mac.com _______________________________________________ macemacsjp-english mailing list macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english ? From zenitani at mac.com Tue Jan 9 10:26:45 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:26:45 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 829] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. '07) In-Reply-To: <4066BE46-7AF0-4063-AC98-CD1A22298A15@xahlee.org> References: <5C51E813-D329-4835-AF1A-D81D75FCB95F@mac.com> <4066BE46-7AF0-4063-AC98-CD1A22298A15@xahlee.org> Message-ID: <955C729A-C16A-4352-981B-F53515E8269E@mac.com> Hi, On 2007/01/08, at 16:39, xah lee wrote: > With this new version, my .emacs loads much faster. > > The ability of using Mac's input system is nice. > > However, my usual emacs based input system seems to be broken. That > is, M-x set-input-method chinese-py. It no longer works. (it just > acts like a latin-system, with no chinese whatsoever) > > Do i need to set some config for the change? > > I particularly $B,'(B the emacs pinyin input system, because it's > the > only system i know where i can still use dvorak to type pinyin. > If you want to use Mac's pinyin, take a look at "System Preferences > International > Input Menu > Traditional Chinese" in the Apple menu. If you want to use Emacs's pinyin, add (mac-input-method-mode -1) to turn off the Mac's input method. However, some people reported that Emacs becomes unstable when the user turns off the Mac's input method. This issue is presently under discussion in the Japanese list. Best wishes, Seiji From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Sat Jan 13 07:49:19 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:49:19 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 830] PDF previewing of TeX code and forward search Message-ID: Hi There were quite a few posts in December on getting a good preview program to work for editing LaTeX documents, since Preview.app (amongst other things) do not automatically reload the pdf document when it is changed because of a recompilation of the latex code. Suggestions of other programs were Acrobat Reader and Texniscope. I have looked at a new application based in part on Texniscope: PDFView ( http://pdfview.sourceforge.net/index.html ). Amongst other things I like is - Automatic reload of the page when the pdf source changes - I like the keyboard navigation better (space jumps one viewing unit at a time) - Automatic maximization for better readability (after having tried this for a few days, this is a killer feature in my opinion: I read quite a lot of pdf documents, and this has just made it so much better) I have managed to get PDFView to work with AUCTeX, providing both forward search (when doing C-c C-c View in AUCTeX, PDFView changes to the line in the pdf document corresponding to the line I was editing) and inverse search (When you CTRL+click in the pdf document, Emacs jumps to the relevant place in the source code). My preference is to have the PDF opening (from Emacs) to be done in the background, but I want Emacs to get the focus when I CTRL+click in PDFView. So here are the steps you need to take (assuming Emacs.app and PDFVIew.app is installed in /Applications): 1) Customizing PDFView: in the LaTeX pref. panel, choose "custom" under pdfsync preset. The command is /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/emacsclient and the argument is --no-wait +%line %file (I have emailed the author to ask him to include this as a standard preset in next version) Note: I had to click around a bit in the pref. panel before I got PDFView to accept my entries. I think there is a small bug regarding the automatic saving of preferences (also reported to the author) 2) Customizing Emacs. Add the following to your .emacs (server-start) (defun raise-emacs-on-aqua() (shell-command "osascript -e 'tell application \"Emacs\" to activate'")) (add-hook 'server-switch-hook 'raise-emacs-on-aqua) (require 'tex-site) (add-hook 'TeX-mode-hook (lambda () (add-to-list 'TeX-output-view-style '("^pdf$" "." "/Applications/PDFView.app/Contents/MacOS/gotoline.sh %n % (OutFullPath)")) (add-to-list 'TeX-expand-list '("%(OutFullPath)" (lambda nil (expand-file-name (TeX-view-output-file) (TeX-master-directory))))) )) The first line is to get inverse search to work. The next group of lines is to make Emacs gain focus when you do inverse search, and the last group of lines (beginning with (require 'tex-site) is to get forward search to work with AUCTeX. 3) Add \usepackage{pdfsync} to your LaTeX code and use pdflatex to compile it (on my systems the latex command is just an alias for pdflatex) Cheers, Kasper From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Sat Jan 13 08:07:30 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:07:30 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 831] Re: PDF previewing of TeX code and forward search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <109E757F-E80D-4909-B546-DA1E9B7CDD22@stat.berkeley.edu> When I wrote CTRL+click below I meant CMD+click. Kasper On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > Hi > > There were quite a few posts in December on getting a good preview > program to work for editing LaTeX documents, since Preview.app > (amongst other things) do not automatically reload the pdf document > when it is changed because of a recompilation of the latex code. > Suggestions of other programs were Acrobat Reader and Texniscope. > > I have looked at a new application based in part on Texniscope: > PDFView ( http://pdfview.sourceforge.net/index.html ). > > Amongst other things I like is > - Automatic reload of the page when the pdf source changes > - I like the keyboard navigation better (space jumps one viewing unit > at a time) > - Automatic maximization for better readability (after having tried > this for a few days, this is a killer feature in my opinion: I read > quite a lot of pdf documents, and this has just made it so much > better) > > I have managed to get PDFView to work with AUCTeX, providing both > forward search (when doing C-c C-c View in AUCTeX, PDFView changes to > the line in the pdf document corresponding to the line I was editing) > and inverse search (When you CTRL+click in the pdf document, Emacs > jumps to the relevant place in the source code). > > My preference is to have the PDF opening (from Emacs) to be done in > the background, but I want Emacs to get the focus when I CTRL+click > in PDFView. > > So here are the steps you need to take (assuming Emacs.app and > PDFVIew.app is installed in /Applications): > > 1) Customizing PDFView: in the LaTeX pref. panel, choose "custom" > under pdfsync preset. The command is > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/emacsclient > and the argument is > --no-wait +%line %file > > (I have emailed the author to ask him to include this as a standard > preset in next version) > > Note: I had to click around a bit in the pref. panel before I got > PDFView to accept my entries. I think there is a small bug regarding > the automatic saving of preferences (also reported to the author) > > 2) Customizing Emacs. Add the following to your .emacs > > (server-start) > > (defun raise-emacs-on-aqua() > (shell-command > "osascript -e 'tell application \"Emacs\" to activate'")) > (add-hook 'server-switch-hook 'raise-emacs-on-aqua) > > (require 'tex-site) > (add-hook 'TeX-mode-hook > (lambda () > (add-to-list 'TeX-output-view-style > '("^pdf$" "." > "/Applications/PDFView.app/Contents/MacOS/gotoline.sh %n % > (OutFullPath)")) > (add-to-list 'TeX-expand-list > '("%(OutFullPath)" (lambda nil > (expand-file-name > (TeX-view-output-file) > (TeX-master-directory))))) > )) > > The first line is to get inverse search to work. The next group of > lines is to make Emacs gain focus when you do inverse search, and the > last group of lines (beginning with (require 'tex-site) is to get > forward search to work with AUCTeX. > > 3) Add > \usepackage{pdfsync} > to your LaTeX code and use pdflatex to compile it (on my systems the > latex command is just an alias for pdflatex) > > Cheers, Kasper > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Sat Jan 13 08:15:35 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:15:35 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 832] Re: PDF previewing of TeX code and forward search In-Reply-To: <109E757F-E80D-4909-B546-DA1E9B7CDD22@stat.berkeley.edu> References: <109E757F-E80D-4909-B546-DA1E9B7CDD22@stat.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1DAA9318-E081-4516-AA50-4178B90063EB@stat.berkeley.edu> Hmm. Some testing (which I guess I should have done first, but I was so happy that I thought I had finally solved it :) reveals that although it works often, I can get Emacs to crash. The affronting code is the stuff that raises the Emacs window, ie. the second chunck of the entries in the .emacs file in the original email. The culprit is a possible hanging Applescript. I believe that this should solve the hanging problem: (defun raise-emacs-on-aqua() (shell-command "osascript -e 'tell application \"Emacs\" to activate' &")) But the ampersand (&) creates an ugly *Async Shell Command* buffer. That should be possible to auto-kill when it has been opened, but it will have to wait before I can take a good look at this. Perhaps someone with more Applescript knowledge can chime in? Kasper On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > When I wrote CTRL+click below I meant CMD+click. > > Kasper > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > >> Hi >> >> There were quite a few posts in December on getting a good preview >> program to work for editing LaTeX documents, since Preview.app >> (amongst other things) do not automatically reload the pdf document >> when it is changed because of a recompilation of the latex code. >> Suggestions of other programs were Acrobat Reader and Texniscope. >> >> I have looked at a new application based in part on Texniscope: >> PDFView ( http://pdfview.sourceforge.net/index.html ). >> >> Amongst other things I like is >> - Automatic reload of the page when the pdf source changes >> - I like the keyboard navigation better (space jumps one viewing unit >> at a time) >> - Automatic maximization for better readability (after having tried >> this for a few days, this is a killer feature in my opinion: I read >> quite a lot of pdf documents, and this has just made it so much >> better) >> >> I have managed to get PDFView to work with AUCTeX, providing both >> forward search (when doing C-c C-c View in AUCTeX, PDFView changes to >> the line in the pdf document corresponding to the line I was editing) >> and inverse search (When you CTRL+click in the pdf document, Emacs >> jumps to the relevant place in the source code). >> >> My preference is to have the PDF opening (from Emacs) to be done in >> the background, but I want Emacs to get the focus when I CTRL+click >> in PDFView. >> >> So here are the steps you need to take (assuming Emacs.app and >> PDFVIew.app is installed in /Applications): >> >> 1) Customizing PDFView: in the LaTeX pref. panel, choose "custom" >> under pdfsync preset. The command is >> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/emacsclient >> and the argument is >> --no-wait +%line %file >> >> (I have emailed the author to ask him to include this as a standard >> preset in next version) >> >> Note: I had to click around a bit in the pref. panel before I got >> PDFView to accept my entries. I think there is a small bug regarding >> the automatic saving of preferences (also reported to the author) >> >> 2) Customizing Emacs. Add the following to your .emacs >> >> (server-start) >> >> (defun raise-emacs-on-aqua() >> (shell-command >> "osascript -e 'tell application \"Emacs\" to activate'")) >> (add-hook 'server-switch-hook 'raise-emacs-on-aqua) >> >> (require 'tex-site) >> (add-hook 'TeX-mode-hook >> (lambda () >> (add-to-list 'TeX-output-view-style >> '("^pdf$" "." >> "/Applications/PDFView.app/Contents/MacOS/gotoline.sh %n % >> (OutFullPath)")) >> (add-to-list 'TeX-expand-list >> '("%(OutFullPath)" (lambda nil >> (expand-file-name >> (TeX-view-output-file) >> (TeX-master-directory))))) >> )) >> >> The first line is to get inverse search to work. The next group of >> lines is to make Emacs gain focus when you do inverse search, and the >> last group of lines (beginning with (require 'tex-site) is to get >> forward search to work with AUCTeX. >> >> 3) Add >> \usepackage{pdfsync} >> to your LaTeX code and use pdflatex to compile it (on my systems the >> latex command is just an alias for pdflatex) >> >> Cheers, Kasper >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From zenitani at mac.com Sun Jan 14 05:39:10 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:39:10 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 833] aspell: broken on ppc References: <337C7A4A-20BB-4EAD-95F8-D10C53546679@mac.com> Message-ID: <63574A17-08AE-477F-8A42-33689BED515D@mac.com> Hi all, It is reported that the built-in aspell on powerpc mac is broken in the January build; the aspell is linked with the non-standard libraries. I am planning a minor update next weekend or later. For a while, if you need aspell on powerpc, please use the last november build. Best wishes, Seiji From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Sun Jan 14 23:04:46 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:04:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 834] Emacs Customizations: View, pdf, dvi, etc. Message-ID: Hi, I have gotten a possible customization of AUCTeX/Emacs for viewing pdf and dvi files with Preview and TeXShop, respectively. Some of it, if not almost all, I did with prompting suggestions from Peter Dyballa. I'll describe the customization steps below and, since I do not know how good they are, I would appreciate piers' review, possibly with better solutions. (Similar customizations perhaps would work for any other viewers.) But at first, a slight divergence (which, some of you may opt to skip over to the mark ****): In previous versions of Emacs, the default viewer was Preview, for both latex and pdflatex, According to me, the default View command following latex, with disabled PDFLaTeX mode, converted the dvi file into pdf via dvips+ps2pdf, since dvips is important for some special tex files. I found that very good, very convenient and quick. In the later versions of Carbon Emacs, incl. Jan 07, the default View command invokes xpdf and xdvi, for pdf and dvi files, respectively. Under Linux, xdvi and xpdf are fine, but on a Mac, the life is far nicer with Preview and TeXShop (or some of the other alternatives in the line). It would be good if these two were defaults, respectively, for pdf and dvi, esp. since: (1) Preview is the default viewer on Mac OSX; (2) the new TeXLive distribution can be installed so easily with MacTeX_Additions, and thus, almost, comes bundled with TeXShop. TeXShop seems the better option for dvi files since it converts them into pdf files (without removing the dvi files, if one would prefer this), etc, nice features. AUCTeX/Emacs offer to users customizations, but some of us prefer getting everything as a default, as convenient as possible in our work, without messing up with customizations (which by themselves require skills). I have been struggling to get rid of the default View with xpdf and xdvi and replace them with Preview and TeXShop, respectively. It seems to me other people do similarly. **** Here is what I've done: The buffer "Customize group: Tex Command" can be opened by selecting from the menu bar of Emacs the following: Latex -> Customize Auctex -> Browse options -> Tex Command group: [Go to Group] Clicking on [Go to Group] opens the customization buffer for {Tex Command}. In it, there is a customization item {Tex Output View Style}. Clicking over [Show Value] expands declarations for various groups of commands, incl. for viewing the output of (pdf)(la)tex. There is a long list of xdvi and other commands, which I do not dare to touch (by not knowing their syntax): apparently they are responsible for the default View command with xdvi? I have selected up the first available for expansion INS button at the beginning of the first occurrence of the xdvi command. (It seems to me that the order does not influence the priority of the viewing, perhaps set up somewhere?) I expanded this INS button by clicking over it and filling up the following declaration: INS DEL Extension: ^dvi$ Choice: Value Menu List: ;; I'm not sure what is this? INS Command: open -a TeXShop %s.dvi The command for the default View of pdf files with xpdf is at the end of the list in {Tex Output View Style}. In the original Carbon Emacs.app download, this is the declaration INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . Command: xpdf -remote "%s" -raise %o %(outpage) I've replaced the above declaration with the following (I do not know if it would be good or not to keep both): INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . ;; I'm not sure what is this? Command: open -a Preview %o %(outpage) (In both declarations above, I tried alternatively with: Command: open -a Preview %s.pdf Command: open -a TeXShop %o %(outpage) I am not sure what would be better choice. Something left me with the above, hard-set-up, constraint for the specific .dvi extension with TeXShop.) These two declarations seem to trigger the default viewing: - pdf files with Preview, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been typeset with PDFLaTeX - dvi files with TeXShop, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been typeset with TeXShop For ex., I do the following: C-c C-t C-p => Tex-Pdf mode enabled C-c C-c to invoke the pdflatex command: Command: (default LaTeX) RET Command: (default View) RET View command: open -a Preview test.pdf RET However, this does not always work, in particular: I have some tex files with dvips specialties, which require latexing via the commands dvips + ps2pdf, or simpdftex. With the help of Gerben Wierda, I included simpdftex as a command in the AUCTeX/Emacs Command list (thanks Gerben, if you read or not this). After latexing with simpdftex command, Preview is not invoked as the default viewer. I.e., here is what I get: C-c C-c Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET Command: (default View) RET View command: xdvi test-dvips.dvi To avoid the xdvi, I do the following C-c C-c Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET Command: (default View) Pre TAB Command: (default View) Preview RET Preview command: open -a Preview test-dvips.pdf After saving the above declarations in the "Customize..." buffer with {Save for Future Sessions}, AUCTeX/Emacs saves appropriate statements in ~/.emacs. Roussanka ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Mon Jan 15 00:41:33 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:41:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 835] thanks to Gerben Wierda Message-ID: I have been using Gerben's i-Installer and TeX on Mac X very happily, mostly with Emacs, but also with TeXShop. Now, as I've been engaged in setting up my new MacBook Pro freshly with the new versions of Emacs, TeXShop, Gerben's TeXLive (etc mutually working tools), and using these email lists for help, I want to post my own gratitude to Gerben Wierda for all of his services to us (in the past and on-going, and hopefully, in the future); and also to the rest of the gang of developers, since all these tools work in tandem. I can say that, if I am using a Mac today, it is for TeX on Mac, which, already for several years, is Gerben's TeX. Textures was good too, but one had to buy it, and esp. after one gets into using Emacs, Gerben's TeX has been the best choice, at least for me. Now, a divergence (I like them), but not too far away: In the history of mathematics, there have been many speculations about possible revolutions in mathematics (e.g., with developments of mathematical analysis, math logic and computability). Then, wasn't it that mathematics contributed computers, directly and indirectly? And right soon after that, we have been witnessing and experiencing the advent of the computers in all branches of everyday life, sciences and technologies, including mathematics itself. Not only that computers were contributed by mathematics, but vice versa, the computers accelerated a new stage in mathematics, which has entered in revolutionary Renaissance. Virtuously, computers have been influencing the entire mathematics: both theory and application developments themselves, but also the way mathematicians perform math. A significant portion of it, nowadays, is by typesetting with TeX. We also teach and require our students to typeset their course and project reports with LaTeX. And, quite many of us use TeX on Macs; and quite many of us use Gerben's TeX. (A statistical look may show that most of those who use TeX on Macs do so, or intent to). Another small divergence: My 1st attempt on AUCTeX/Emacs customization was by adding an external command to the AUCTeX/Emacs' Command list. (I use very often the command simpdftex for tex files with dvips specialties.) For that, I was helped out by Gerben Wierda (dispite that, as it seems to me, he uses mainly TeXShop, not Emacs, and), on the verge of his deadline to complete the new packages i-Install and TeXLive. What he suggested worked right away. Now, I am back to my testing the New TeXLive 2006. (I have already some questions on some of that...) Gerben, thanks for supporting our work. Roussanka ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University ------------------------------------------------ From javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 07:53:26 2007 From: javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com (Javier Elizondo) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:53:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 836] Spanish dictionary Message-ID: <96487.2291.qm@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi, I tried to install the aspell spanish dictionary, it was impossible to do it, at leas for me. It was not even possible to unpackage the tar file, so I did it in a linux computer, then I copy the the files to mac, and run the ./configure and then make, but I had to edit the make in order to delete esp?nol.alias, since the mac did not reconigze it. At the end it runs, but when I tried to use carbon emacs with the dictionary it did not recognize the base files from aspell. I installed the dictionary in emacs inside darwin, and it runs fine, but for some reason I have not benn able to find out, it is not possible to do it easily in carbon emacs. I would appreciate your help for installing the spanish dictionary in carbon emacs. It seems to be a real problem the carcteres, "espa?nol" that comes in the distribution files. Thanks, Javier ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was not even possible to unpackage the > tar file, so I did it in a linux computer, then I copy the the > files to mac, and run the ./configure and then make, but I had to > edit the make in order to delete esp?nol.alias, since the mac did > not reconigze it. At the end it runs, but when I tried to use > carbon emacs with the dictionary it did not recognize the base > files from aspell. > > I installed the dictionary in emacs inside darwin, and it runs > fine, but for some reason I have not benn able to find out, it is > not possible to do it easily in carbon emacs. > > I would appreciate your help for installing the spanish dictionary > in carbon emacs. It seems to be a real problem the carcteres, "espa? > nol" that comes in the distribution files. > > Thanks, Javier > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 09:13:59 2007 From: javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com (Javier Elizondo) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:13:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 838] Re: Spanish dictionary Message-ID: <378586.23084.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi, thanks a lot!, I will try to follow the instruction you posted. Javier Elizondo ----- Original Message ---- From: Seiji Zenitani To: macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:09:16 PM Subject: [macemacsjp-english 837] Re: Spanish dictionary Hi, I've added the recipe to the below FAQ page. http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/CarbonEmacsPackage Surely it is extremely messy and confusing... Cheers, Seiji On 2007/01/15, at 17:53, Javier Elizondo wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to install the aspell spanish dictionary, it was impossible > to do it, at leas for me. It was not even possible to unpackage the > tar file, so I did it in a linux computer, then I copy the the > files to mac, and run the ./configure and then make, but I had to > edit the make in order to delete esp?nol.alias, since the mac did > not reconigze it. At the end it runs, but when I tried to use > carbon emacs with the dictionary it did not recognize the base > files from aspell. > > I installed the dictionary in emacs inside darwin, and it runs > fine, but for some reason I have not benn able to find out, it is > not possible to do it easily in carbon emacs. > > I would appreciate your help for installing the spanish dictionary > in carbon emacs. It seems to be a real problem the carcteres, "espa? > nol" that comes in the distribution files. > > Thanks, Javier > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english _______________________________________________ macemacsjp-english mailing list macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/macemacsjp-english/attachments/20070115/efebefbb/attachment.htm From zenitani at mac.com Thu Jan 18 12:20:21 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:20:21 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 839] Re: Spanish dictionary In-Reply-To: <378586.23084.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <378586.23084.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D0826E3-36D7-4C83-B6CA-F478ECF41A60@mac.com> Hi, Does anyone try aspell international dictionaries via "netinstall"? Try "Help > Carbon Emacs Package > Net-Install > Enter URL..." in the menu bar and enter the following URLs. At my hand, it perfectly works in French. French dictionary http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/netinstall/aspell-fr.tgz German http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/netinstall/aspell-de.tgz Italian http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/netinstall/aspell-it.tgz Russian http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/netinstall/aspell-ru.tgz You may need (set-process-coding-system 'utf-8). # But probably mule-utf-8 or utf-8 is default. Seiji On 2007/01/15, at 19:13, Javier Elizondo wrote: > Hi, thanks a lot!, I will try to follow the instruction you posted. > Javier Elizondo > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Seiji Zenitani > To: macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:09:16 PM > Subject: [macemacsjp-english 837] Re: Spanish dictionary > > Hi, > > I've added the recipe to the below FAQ page. > http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/CarbonEmacsPackage > > Surely it is extremely messy and confusing... > > Cheers, > Seiji > > On 2007/01/15, at 17:53, Javier Elizondo wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I tried to install the aspell spanish dictionary, it was impossible > > to do it, at leas for me. It was not even possible to unpackage the > > tar file, so I did it in a linux computer, then I copy the the > > files to mac, and run the ./configure and then make, but I had to > > edit the make in order to delete esp?nol.alias, since the mac did > > not reconigze it. At the end it runs, but when I tried to use > > carbon emacs with the dictionary it did not recognize the base > > files from aspell. > > > > I installed the dictionary in emacs inside darwin, and it runs > > fine, but for some reason I have not benn able to find out, it is > > not possible to do it easily in carbon emacs. > > > > I would appreciate your help for installing the spanish dictionary > > in carbon emacs. It seems to be a real problem the carcteres, "espa? > > nol" that comes in the distribution files. > > > > Thanks, Javier > > > > It's here! Your new message! > > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > > _______________________________________________ > > macemacsjp-english mailing list > > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Sat Jan 20 22:04:28 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:04:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 840] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Javier Elizondo wrote: ... > I am trying to run the preview for pdf and dvi files. I read your emails > and I still have some questions and doubts of how to do it. The easy > question is if the preview (pdf files) reloads after running latex in > emacs?. Unfortunately, it does not *automatically*. I am using the following suggestion given to me by folks of this list: In the Preview's Menu -> File -> Revert Unfortunately, there is no key combination for this, or I do not know how to get such. (As I recall, in xpdf, the Reload is by hitting the key "r" or "R".) > The hardest question is if I should follow the indications that > you wrote in your mail to the list on the 14th of January. They work, at least for me, for now. I'll use them, until some conflict or something better shows up, in which case, I'll post to the list (as I got all this help from the folks of the list). There have been suggestions for using Texniscope. Also, Peter Dyballa gave very valuable advises. I haven't had yet time to try them. Regards, Roussanka > I am copying > the instructions I read in your mail down this email. I would appreciate > your help a lot!, and hope you can do it. > Javier Elizondo The buffer "Customize group: Tex Command" can be opened by selecting from the menu bar of Emacs the following: Latex -> Customize Auctex -> Browse options -> Tex Command group: [Go to Group] Clicking on [Go to Group] opens the customization buffer for {Tex Command}. In it, there is a customization item {Tex Output View Style}. Clicking over [Show Value] expands declarations for various groups of commands, incl. for viewing the output of (pdf)(la)tex. There is a long list of xdvi and other commands, which I do not dare to touch (by not knowing their syntax): apparently they are responsible for the default View command with xdvi? I have selected up the first available for expansion INS button at the beginning of the first occurrence of the xdvi command. (It seems to me that the order does not influence the priority of the viewing, perhaps set up somewhere?) I expanded this INS button by clicking over it and filling up the following declaration: INS DEL Extension: ^dvi$ Choice: Value Menu List: ;; I'm not sure what is this? INS Command: open -a TeXShop %s.dvi The command for the default View of pdf files with xpdf is at the end of the list in {Tex Output View Style}. In the original Carbon Emacs.app download, this is the declaration INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . Command: xpdf -remote "%s" -raise %o %(outpage) I've replaced the above declaration with the following (I do not know if it would be good or not to keep both): INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . ;; I'm not sure what is this? Command: open -a Preview %o %(outpage) (In both declarations above, I tried alternatively with: Command: open -a Preview %s.pdf Command: open -a TeXShop %o %(outpage) I am not sure what would be better choice. Something left me with the above, hard-set-up, constraint for the specific .dvi extension with TeXShop.) These two declarations seem to trigger the default viewing: - pdf files with Preview, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been typeset with PDFLaTeX - dvi files with TeXShop, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been typeset with TeXShop For ex., I do the following: C-c C-t C-p => Tex-Pdf mode enabled C-c C-c to invoke the pdflatex command: Command: (default LaTeX) RET Command: (default View) RET View command: open -a Preview test.pdf RET However, this does not always work, in particular: I have some tex files with dvips specialties, which require latexing via the commands dvips + ps2pdf, or simpdftex. With the help of Gerben Wierda, I included simpdftex as a command in the AUCTeX/Emacs Command list (thanks Gerben, if you read or not this). After latexing with simpdftex command, Preview is not invoked as the default viewer. I.e., here is what I get: C-c C-c Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET Command: (default View) RET View command: xdvi test-dvips.dvi To avoid the xdvi, I do the following C-c C-c Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET Command: (default View) Pre TAB Command: (default View) Preview RET Preview command: open -a Preview test-dvips.pdf After saving the above declarations in the "Customize..." buffer with {Save for Future Sessions}, AUCTeX/Emacs saves appropriate statements in ~/.emacs. ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From david.reitter at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 23:11:36 2007 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:11:36 +0000 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 841] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53709D7E-F364-4E66-96B9-A8FDAC4B7ECF@gmail.com> On 20 Jan 2007, at 13:04, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > In the Preview's Menu -> File -> Revert > > Unfortunately, there is no key combination for this, or I do not > know how > to get such. (As I recall, in xpdf, the Reload is by hitting the > key "r" or > "R".) Well, you can bind that function to a key via System Prefs. I did that - but unfortunately Preview.app is buggy when it comes to reloading PDF files. It'll even crash when you reload a file with a different page number. PDFPreview (pdfpreview.sourceforge.net) works for me (albeit it crashes occasionally). D From zenitani at mac.com Sun Jan 21 03:59:34 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:59:34 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 842] New beta Message-ID: Hi, New beta is available. I believe aspell on ppc macs is fixed now. http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/test/ Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Sun Jan 21 05:59:59 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:59:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 843] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, After today's update of Carbon Emacs, opening and latexing Emacs with the previous .emacs caused some errors, so I deleted it. Then, I repeated the customization steps LaTeX -> Customize AUCTeX In doing so, I realized that in my previous description, I missed to write that to invoke Preview from Emacs' minibufer (for example after using simpdftex) I added Preview as an AUCTeX/Emacs Command: Latex -> Customize Auctex -> Browse options -> Tex Command group: [Go to Group] -> Tex Command List Right after the View Command, I've added: INS DEL Name: Preview Command: open -a Preview %s.pdf How: Value Menu TeX-run-discard Start process with second argument, discarding its output. Prompt: Toggle off (nil) Modes: Value Menu All Menu elements: INS Roussanka On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Javier Elizondo wrote: > ... >> I am trying to run the preview for pdf and dvi files. I read your emails >> and I still have some questions and doubts of how to do it. The easy >> question is if the preview (pdf files) reloads after running latex in >> emacs?. > > Unfortunately, it does not *automatically*. I am using the following > suggestion given to me by folks of this list: > > In the Preview's Menu -> File -> Revert > > Unfortunately, there is no key combination for this, or I do not know how > to get such. (As I recall, in xpdf, the Reload is by hitting the key "r" or > "R".) > >> The hardest question is if I should follow the indications that >> you wrote in your mail to the list on the 14th of January. > > They work, at least for me, for now. I'll use them, until some conflict > or something better shows up, in which case, I'll post to the list (as > I got all this help from the folks of the list). There have been > suggestions for using Texniscope. Also, Peter Dyballa gave very valuable > advises. I haven't had yet time to try them. > > Regards, > Roussanka > >> I am copying >> the instructions I read in your mail down this email. I would appreciate >> your help a lot!, and hope you can do it. > >> Javier Elizondo > > > The buffer "Customize group: Tex Command" can be opened by selecting > from the menu bar of Emacs the following: > > Latex -> Customize Auctex -> Browse options -> Tex Command group: [Go to > Group] > > Clicking on [Go to Group] opens the customization buffer for > {Tex Command}. In it, there is a customization item > {Tex Output View Style}. Clicking over [Show Value] expands > declarations for various groups of commands, incl. for viewing the > output of (pdf)(la)tex. There is a long list of xdvi and other > commands, which I do not dare to touch (by not knowing their syntax): > apparently they are responsible for the default View command with > xdvi? > > I have selected up the first available for expansion INS button at the > beginning of the first occurrence of the xdvi command. (It seems to me > that the order does not influence the priority of the viewing, perhaps > set up somewhere?) I expanded this INS button by clicking over it and > filling up the following declaration: > > INS DEL Extension: ^dvi$ > Choice: Value Menu List: ;; I'm not sure what is this? > INS > Command: open -a TeXShop %s.dvi > > The command for the default View of pdf files with xpdf is at the end > of the list in {Tex Output View Style}. In the original > Carbon Emacs.app download, this is the declaration > > INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ > Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . > Command: xpdf -remote "%s" -raise %o %(outpage) > > I've replaced the above declaration with the following (I do not know > if it would be good or not to keep both): > > INS DEL Extension: ^pdf$ > Choice: Value Menu Regexp: . ;; I'm not sure what is this? > Command: open -a Preview %o %(outpage) > > (In both declarations above, I tried alternatively with: > Command: open -a Preview %s.pdf > Command: open -a TeXShop %o %(outpage) > > I am not sure what would be better choice. Something left me with the > above, hard-set-up, constraint for the specific .dvi extension with > TeXShop.) > > These two declarations seem to trigger the default viewing: > > - pdf files with Preview, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been > typeset with PDFLaTeX > > - dvi files with TeXShop, when a tex file (for ex., test.tex) has been > typeset with TeXShop > > For ex., I do the following: > > C-c C-t C-p => Tex-Pdf mode enabled > C-c C-c to invoke the pdflatex command: Command: (default LaTeX) RET > Command: (default View) RET > View command: open -a Preview test.pdf RET > > However, this does not always work, in particular: I have some tex > files with dvips specialties, which require latexing via the commands > dvips + ps2pdf, or simpdftex. With the help of Gerben Wierda, I > included simpdftex as a command in the AUCTeX/Emacs Command list > (thanks Gerben, if you read or not this). After latexing with > simpdftex command, Preview is not invoked as the default viewer. I.e., > here is what I get: > > C-c C-c > Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET > Command: (default View) RET > View command: xdvi test-dvips.dvi > > To avoid the xdvi, I do the following > > C-c C-c > Command: (default LaTeX) simpdftex RET > Command: (default View) Pre TAB > Command: (default View) Preview RET > Preview command: open -a Preview test-dvips.pdf > > After saving the above declarations in the "Customize..." buffer with > {Save for Future Sessions}, AUCTeX/Emacs saves appropriate statements in > ~/.emacs. > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 > > -- ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 09:48:47 2007 From: javier_elizondo69 at yahoo.com (Javier Elizondo) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:48:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 844] Re: New beta Message-ID: <346863.73496.qm@web55111.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi again, Do you know aquamacs emacs?, if so, what is your opinion with respect aquamacs emacs?. I have just found about the existence of this. As you can see I am complety new with mac, in fact I bought my first mac less than one month ago!!!! Cheers from the south!, javier ----- Original Message ---- From: Seiji Zenitani To: macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:59:34 PM Subject: [macemacsjp-english 842] New beta Hi, New beta is available. I believe aspell on ppc macs is fixed now. http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/test/ Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com _______________________________________________ macemacsjp-english mailing list macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I intend to provide moderate amount of UNIX & Mac integration, so that UNIX users feel comfortable. You can try both of them and you can choose either of them. Seiji P.S. Both Carbon Emacs Package and Aquamacs emacs influence each other. For example, my Emacs uses Aquamacs' toolbar patch, while Aquamacs emacs employs our transparency patch, modified unicode encoding and so on. Also, David has contributed his modifier-key code to the emacs main code and we are on the way to contribute our transparency patch. On 2007/01/20, at 19:48, Javier Elizondo wrote: > Hi again, > > Do you know aquamacs emacs?, if so, what is your opinion with > respect aquamacs emacs?. I have just found about the existence of > this. As you can see I am complety new with mac, in fact I bought > my first mac less than one month ago!!!! > Cheers from the south!, javier > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Seiji Zenitani > To: macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:59:34 PM > Subject: [macemacsjp-english 842] New beta > > Hi, > > New beta is available. > I believe aspell on ppc macs is fixed now. > http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/test/ > > Sincerely, > > Seiji Zenitani > zenitani at mac.com > > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From zenitani at mac.com Mon Jan 22 13:10:29 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:10:29 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 846] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> Hi, On 2007/01/20, at 15:59, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > > After today's update of Carbon Emacs, opening and latexing Emacs > with the previous .emacs caused some errors, so I deleted it. So, now you have no problems regarding the beta file? I am ready to release that. Seiji From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Mon Jan 22 16:34:50 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:34:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 847] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Hi, > > On 2007/01/20, at 15:59, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: >> >> After today's update of Carbon Emacs, opening and latexing Emacs >> with the previous .emacs caused some errors, so I deleted it. > > So, now you have no problems regarding the beta file? > I am ready to release that. I have tested about 10 files for latexing from Emacs (by C-c C-c) with LaTeX, PDFLaTeX, simpdftex (added by me in the Command list), and respective invoking of View (C-c C-c) with TeXShop, Preview, Preview (in the last occasion, after simpdftex and using Preview as a Command). I tested these options with each of the latest distributions gwTeX and TeXLive-2007. I have had those file already typed, so mainly I just opened and then closed them, now and then with some mild typing. It seems to me everything was fine. Except one miner detail, to which I had not paid attention before: If I have several files f1.tex, ..., fn.tex opened and latexed, then Emacs creates output files f1 output, ..., fn output, in separate buffers. None of these buffers get closed by itself (i.e. by Emacs) when I close the corresponding fi.tex (e.g. with Ctr-x k). In the later case, I expected fi output to get closed too. It seems to me, it would be good to get the output buffer closed automatically by Emacs when, either fi.tex is closed, or better, when another file fj.tex gets typeset (latexed): I.e., the appearance of a new fj output could be displayed in a new buffer, while fi output buffer gets closed (automatically y Emacs). The above happens without opening the output buffers in new windows, which I find good: if I want to monitor the latexing output, I can keep up the fi output opened in a separate window, or in a sub-window of the main window. And a question, pending from before: 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click and select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get this with Customize Emacs. 2. The same for the Tools -> Spell Checking -> Flyspell I can select this option only temporarily for the current buffer, but I do not know how and if possible to switch it on (and off) for future sessions. > > > Seiji > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > -- ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon Jan 22 19:41:24 2007 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:41:24 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 848] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> Message-ID: <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> Am 22.01.2007 um 08:34 schrieb Roussanka Loukanova: > If I have several files f1.tex, ..., fn.tex opened and latexed, > then Emacs > creates output files f1 output, ..., fn output, in separate > buffers. None > of these buffers get closed by itself (i.e. by Emacs) when I close > the corresponding fi.tex (e.g. with Ctr-x k). In the later case, I > expected fi output to get closed too. It seems to me, it would be good > to get the output buffer closed automatically by Emacs when, either > fi.tex is closed, or better, when another file fj.tex gets typeset > (latexed): I.e., the appearance of a new fj output could be > displayed in a > new buffer, while fi output buffer gets closed (automatically y > Emacs). > This is AUCTeX matter, not Emacs. > > 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click > and > select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs > sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get > this > with Customize Emacs. Emacs does not have the concept of different fonts used in different windows (buffers) in one frame, at least not yet and except fontification. Only a whole frame can have a particular font or fontset selected. And since it's the frame to which the font or fontset is bound, there's no local variable to bind the font or fontset to some file or buffer. Maybe in Aquamacs Emacs this is possible because it opens every file in its own frame ... -- Greetings Pete Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23 From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Mon Jan 22 20:33:15 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:33:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 849] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 22.01.2007 um 08:34 schrieb Roussanka Loukanova: > >> If I have several files f1.tex, ..., fn.tex opened and latexed, >> then Emacs >> creates output files f1 output, ..., fn output, in separate >> buffers. None >> of these buffers get closed by itself (i.e. by Emacs) when I close >> the corresponding fi.tex (e.g. with Ctr-x k). In the later case, I >> expected fi output to get closed too. It seems to me, it would be good >> to get the output buffer closed automatically by Emacs when, either >> fi.tex is closed, or better, when another file fj.tex gets typeset >> (latexed): I.e., the appearance of a new fj output could be >> displayed in a >> new buffer, while fi output buffer gets closed (automatically y >> Emacs). >> > > This is AUCTeX matter, not Emacs. How to get this done? Roussanka > >> >> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click >> and >> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >> this >> with Customize Emacs. > > Emacs does not have the concept of different fonts used in different > windows (buffers) in one frame, at least not yet and except > fontification. Only a whole frame can have a particular font or > fontset selected. And since it's the frame to which the font or > fontset is bound, there's no local variable to bind the font or > fontset to some file or buffer. > > Maybe in Aquamacs Emacs this is possible because it opens every file > in its own frame ... > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Got Mole problems? > Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23 > > From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Mon Jan 22 20:36:52 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:36:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 850] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Peter Dyballa wrote: ... >> >> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click >> and >> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >> this >> with Customize Emacs. > > Emacs does not have the concept of different fonts used in different > windows (buffers) in one frame, at least not yet and except > fontification. Only a whole frame can have a particular font or > fontset selected. And since it's the frame to which the font or > fontset is bound, there's no local variable to bind the font or > fontset to some file or buffer. > This is fine, as long as I can somehow get saved a larger font selection for all Emacs sessions. I used to have a statement in .emacs (with Emacs under Linux), but it doesn't work anymore. You posted a customization (copied below) for .emacs. If I put it in my .emacs, I get the color of the background, but Emacs complains "Font `-*-*-medium...' is not defined" Roussanka (setq initial-frame-alist '( (mouse-color . "midnightblue") (foreground-color . "midnightblue") (background-color . "antiquewhite1") (font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginomin") (top . 10) (left . 650) (width . 89) (height . 60))) (setq default-frame-alist '( (cursor-color . "purple") (cursor-type . box) (vertical-scroll-bars . left) (active-alpha . 0.875) (inactive-alpha . 0.75) (font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--9-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginokaku") (top . 20) (left . 150) (width . 89) (height . 56))) > Maybe in Aquamacs Emacs this is possible because it opens every file > in its own frame ... > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Got Mole problems? > Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23 > From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon Jan 22 21:49:53 2007 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:49:53 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 851] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> Message-ID: Am 22.01.2007 um 12:36 schrieb Roussanka Loukanova: > If I put it in my .emacs, I get the color > of the background, but Emacs complains "Font `-*-*-medium...' is not > defined" Might be you need to install Apple's Japanese and other CJK fonts ... it still works in my old Carbon Emacs from last year. -- Greetings Pete It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. -- Garfield From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon Jan 22 21:50:49 2007 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:50:49 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 852] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <77A73295-DEA5-4C57-921A-9727D5B55B8C@Web.DE> Message-ID: <234E9DDF-E2EC-4F17-9D02-5DB95B48FDAB@Web.DE> Am 22.01.2007 um 12:33 schrieb Roussanka Loukanova: >> This is AUCTeX matter, not Emacs. > > How to get this done? Report is a bug. Or as an enhancement needed ... -- Greetings Pete "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" origin unknown From zenitani at mac.com Tue Jan 23 09:35:46 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:35:46 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 853] Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. 2007 v2) Message-ID: <10CFCAAF-632F-412C-A1C9-F1E6E0D78690@mac.com> Hi all, I have revised the January edition of Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. '07 v2). http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com From zenitani at mac.com Tue Jan 23 10:38:29 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:38:29 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 854] Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> Message-ID: <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Hello, On 2007/01/22, at 2:34, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > > 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click > and > select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs > sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get > this > with Customize Emacs. Please read [macemacsjp-english 764]. > 2. The same for the Tools -> Spell Checking -> Flyspell > I can select this option only temporarily for the current buffer, > but I do > not know how and if possible to switch it on (and off) for future > sessions. For tex(auctex) mode, (add-hook 'TeX-mode-hook (lambda () (flyspell-mode 1))) -- Seiji From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Tue Jan 23 22:50:09 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:50:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 855] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. 2007 v2) In-Reply-To: <10CFCAAF-632F-412C-A1C9-F1E6E0D78690@mac.com> References: <10CFCAAF-632F-412C-A1C9-F1E6E0D78690@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > > I have revised the January edition of Carbon Emacs Package (Jan. '07 > v2). > > http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html I upgraded to it, and this time, upon starting up emacs, the .emacs was read with no problems: .emacs included my previous customizations for auctex/emacs commands and View options; and now all these commands are accessible from the menu under Commands and from the emacs' minibuffer without having to "recreate" them. Thanks! Roussanka From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Tue Jan 23 23:41:37 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:41:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 856] font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >> >> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click >> and >> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >> this >> with Customize Emacs. > > Please read [macemacsjp-english 764]. I tried several options, only the last from the described ones below works satisfactory (may be in the first two I do not do something properly): A. I read that email and /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon-font.el The descriptions are not clear in which file to put the suggested lines: I tried putting the line (fixed-width-set-default-fontset "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*- fontset-hiraginokaku") - in .emacs Emacs complains for errors upon start-up - in /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon-font.el Emacs starts up with no complains, but there is no effect on the font in the buffers. B. From Emacs' menu bar (after having a buffer with some file): Options -> Show/Hide -> Font Panel brings up Mac's Font Panel: I select desired font size, e.g. Monaco -> Regular -> 14 This makes the font in the buffer to that size. Then, I select Options -> Save Options But this has no effect on the next new emacs sessions. C. This option is described by Jean-Christophe Helary Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:05:58 +0900 From: Jean-Christophe Helary... To: Emacs on Mac OS X Subject: Re: [OS X Emacs] changing default fonts on aquamacs 0.9.9d from emacs' menu Options -> Customize Options -> Specific Face... type in the minibuffer "default": Customize face (default font-lock-comment-face): default RET under Default face: ... I replaced only 120 with 140: .... Choice: Value Menu Attributes: [X] Font Family: apple-monaco [X] Width: Value Menu medium [X] Height: Value Menu Height in 1/10 pt: 140 ... Then selecting Save for Future Sessions, does so. In .emacs, I get the following statement, which apparently, if put in there "by hand," without the above steps via emacs' menu, should do the job: (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "white" :foreground "black" :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 140 :width normal :family "apple-monaco"))))) From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Tue Jan 23 23:46:01 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:46:01 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 857] Flyspell Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >> 2. The same for the Tools -> Spell Checking -> Flyspell >> I can select this option only temporarily for the current buffer, >> but I do >> not know how and if possible to switch it on (and off) for future >> sessions. > > For tex(auctex) mode, > > (add-hook 'TeX-mode-hook > (lambda () (flyspell-mode 1))) > This works: Thanks. Roussanka From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jan 24 01:28:37 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:28:37 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 858] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Message-ID: Roussanka The font-identifier string has to be on one line I think, it is essentially one long identifier. I am using a "large" font for my powerbook (fixed-width-set-default-fontset "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginokaku") Unless my mail program wraps the lines, there should be two lines, the second one merely containing the font code. Now the problem of course is how to get the identifier when you have selected a font using SHIFT+CLICK. I have forgot how to do that on top of my head :) Kasper On Jan 23, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > >>> >>> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click >>> and >>> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >>> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >>> this >>> with Customize Emacs. >> >> Please read [macemacsjp-english 764]. > > I tried several options, only the last from the described ones > below works > satisfactory (may be in the first two I do not do something properly): > > A. I read that email and > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- > font.el > > The descriptions are not clear in which file to put the suggested > lines: > > I tried putting the line > (fixed-width-set-d efault-fontset "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*- > fontset-hiraginokaku") > > - in .emacs > Emacs complains for errors upon start-up > > - in > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- > font.el > > Emacs starts up with no complains, but there is no effect on the > font in > the buffers. > > B. From Emacs' menu bar (after having a buffer with some file): > > Options -> Show/Hide -> Font Panel > > brings up Mac's Font Panel: I select desired font size, e.g. > Monaco -> Regular -> 14 > > This makes the font in the buffer to that size. Then, I select > Options -> Save Options > > But this has no effect on the next new emacs sessions. > > C. This option is described by Jean-Christophe Helary > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:05:58 +0900 > From: Jean-Christophe Helary... > To: Emacs on Mac OS X > Subject: Re: [OS X Emacs] changing default fonts on aquamacs 0.9.9d > > from emacs' menu > Options -> Customize Options -> Specific Face... > > type in the minibuffer "default": > > Customize face (default font-lock-comment-face): default RET > > under Default face: ... > > I replaced only 120 with 140: > > .... > Choice: Value Menu > Attributes: [X] Font Family: apple-monaco > [X] Width: Value Menu medium > [X] Height: Value Menu Height in 1/10 pt: 140 > ... > > Then selecting Save for Future Sessions, does so. In .emacs, I get the > following statement, which apparently, if put in there "by hand," > without > the above steps via emacs' menu, should do the job: > > (custom-set-faces > ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "white" :foreground "black" > :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline > nil :underline > nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 140 :width normal :family > "apple-monaco"))))) > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Wed Jan 24 03:10:23 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:10:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 859] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Kasper, On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > Roussanka > > The font-identifier string has to be on one line I think, it is > essentially one long identifier. > > I am using a "large" font for my powerbook > (fixed-width-set-default-fontset > "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginokaku") > > Unless my mail program wraps the lines, there should be two lines, > the second one merely containing the font code. Yes, when I tied it, I had it in exactly the same way as you are giving it above. (Sorry, when I described the steps in the email, I copied and pasted it from the email [macemacsjp-english 764] and missed to be careful for the splits.) And my question is, in which file do you put the above statement? If I put it in .emacs, I get the following: "An error has occurred while loading `/Users/rosi/.emacs': Symbol's function definition is void: fixed-width-set-default-fontset" I tried it also in the file: /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon-font.el by placing it about the end of the file, just before the comment ;;; carbon-font.el ends here > Now the problem of course is how to get the identifier when you have > selected a font using SHIFT+CLICK. I have forgot how to do that on > top of my head :) If you remember I would appreciate it: it is somewhat irritating that all you got it, while I can't. Roussanka > Kasper > > > On Jan 23, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >> >>>> >>>> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift-Click >>>> and >>>> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >>>> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >>>> this >>>> with Customize Emacs. >>> >>> Please read [macemacsjp-english 764]. >> >> I tried several options, only the last from the described ones >> below works >> satisfactory (may be in the first two I do not do something properly): >> >> A. I read that email and >> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- >> font.el >> >> The descriptions are not clear in which file to put the suggested >> lines: >> >> I tried putting the line >> (fixed-width-set-d efault-fontset "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*- >> fontset-hiraginokaku") >> >> - in .emacs >> Emacs complains for errors upon start-up >> >> - in >> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- >> font.el >> >> Emacs starts up with no complains, but there is no effect on the >> font in >> the buffers. >> >> B. From Emacs' menu bar (after having a buffer with some file): >> >> Options -> Show/Hide -> Font Panel >> >> brings up Mac's Font Panel: I select desired font size, e.g. >> Monaco -> Regular -> 14 >> >> This makes the font in the buffer to that size. Then, I select >> Options -> Save Options >> >> But this has no effect on the next new emacs sessions. >> >> C. This option is described by Jean-Christophe Helary >> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:05:58 +0900 >> From: Jean-Christophe Helary... >> To: Emacs on Mac OS X >> Subject: Re: [OS X Emacs] changing default fonts on aquamacs 0.9.9d >> >> from emacs' menu >> Options -> Customize Options -> Specific Face... >> >> type in the minibuffer "default": >> >> Customize face (default font-lock-comment-face): default RET >> >> under Default face: ... >> >> I replaced only 120 with 140: >> >> .... >> Choice: Value Menu >> Attributes: [X] Font Family: apple-monaco >> [X] Width: Value Menu medium >> [X] Height: Value Menu Height in 1/10 pt: 140 >> ... >> >> Then selecting Save for Future Sessions, does so. In .emacs, I get the >> following statement, which apparently, if put in there "by hand," >> without >> the above steps via emacs' menu, should do the job: >> >> (custom-set-faces >> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. >> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >> '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "white" :foreground "black" >> :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline >> nil :underline >> nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 140 :width normal :family >> "apple-monaco"))))) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > -- ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From zenitani at mac.com Wed Jan 24 03:26:57 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:26:57 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 860] How to use carbon-font.el Message-ID: <9633834F-0110-1000-AB95-7A4C5A9A4345-Webmail-10024@mac.com> Hi, I examined carbon-font.el and I found that the description is so messy. It took me to read it several times to understand its usage. For record, I will send you its usage. You can put some of the following lines to your .emacs.el. -------------------------------------- (require 'carbon-font) ;; default fontset (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka")) ;; default (12pt) (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka")) ;; 14pt ;; change the fontset of the current frame (set-frame-font "fontset-osaka") ;; default (12pt) (set-frame-font "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka") ;; 14pt -------------------------------------- Available font sizes are as follows: 7,8,9,10,12(default),14,16,18,20,24 Available fontsets are as follows: fontset-hiraginomaru Monaco + Hiragino Maru Gothic fontset-hiraginokaku Monaco + Hiragino Kaku Gothic fontset-osaka Monaco + osaka fontset-hiraginomin Courier + Hiragino Mincho -- Seiji Zenitani zenitani at mac.com From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jan 24 03:31:44 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:31:44 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 861] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> Message-ID: <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > Hi Kasper, > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > >> Roussanka >> >> The font-identifier string has to be on one line I think, it is >> essentially one long identifier. >> >> I am using a "large" font for my powerbook >> (fixed-width-set-default-fontset >> "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginokaku") >> >> Unless my mail program wraps the lines, there should be two lines, >> the second one merely containing the font code. > > Yes, when I tied it, I had it in exactly the same way as you are > giving it > above. (Sorry, when I described the steps in the email, I copied > and pasted > it from the email [macemacsjp-english 764] and missed to be careful > for > the splits.) > > And my question is, in which file do you put the above statement? > If I put > it in .emacs, I get the following: > "An error has occurred while loading `/Users/rosi/.emacs': > > Symbol's function definition is void: fixed-width-set-default-fontset" > > I tried it also in the file: > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- > font.el > by placing it about the end of the file, just before the comment > ;;; carbon-font.el ends here > >> Now the problem of course is how to get the identifier when you have >> selected a font using SHIFT+CLICK. I have forgot how to do that on >> top of my head :) > > If you remember I would appreciate it: it is somewhat irritating > that all > you got it, while I can't. Looking closer at my .emacs file (which is where I put it), I think you may need the following (require 'carbon-font) The function in question is contained in /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/emacs/22.0.92/site- lisp/mac/fixed-width-fontset.elc which I think is loaded by the require statement above. The is also a non-mac-specific way to set the font size, but then I am not sure you can use the nice carbon fonts. Kasper > Roussanka > >> Kasper >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Roussanka Loukanova wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. If I select larger font in an open buffer, e.g. with Shift- >>>>> Click >>>>> and >>>>> select Courier 18, then I can not get this saved for future Emacs >>>>> sessions with Options -> SaveOptions; and I do not know how to get >>>>> this >>>>> with Customize Emacs. >>>> >>>> Please read [macemacsjp-english 764]. >>> >>> I tried several options, only the last from the described ones >>> below works >>> satisfactory (may be in the first two I do not do something >>> properly): >>> >>> A. I read that email and >>> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- >>> font.el >>> >>> The descriptions are not clear in which file to put the suggested >>> lines: >>> >>> I tried putting the line >>> (fixed-width-set-d efault-fontset "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*- >>> *-*- >>> fontset-hiraginokaku") >>> >>> - in .emacs >>> Emacs complains for errors upon start-up >>> >>> - in >>> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/mac/carbon- >>> font.el >>> >>> Emacs starts up with no complains, but there is no effect on the >>> font in >>> the buffers. >>> >>> B. From Emacs' menu bar (after having a buffer with some file): >>> >>> Options -> Show/Hide -> Font Panel >>> >>> brings up Mac's Font Panel: I select desired font size, e.g. >>> Monaco -> Regular -> 14 >>> >>> This makes the font in the buffer to that size. Then, I select >>> Options -> Save Options >>> >>> But this has no effect on the next new emacs sessions. >>> >>> C. This option is described by Jean-Christophe Helary >>> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:05:58 +0900 >>> From: Jean-Christophe Helary... >>> To: Emacs on Mac OS X >>> Subject: Re: [OS X Emacs] changing default fonts on aquamacs 0.9.9d >>> >>> from emacs' menu >>> Options -> Customize Options -> Specific Face... >>> >>> type in the minibuffer "default": >>> >>> Customize face (default font-lock-comment-face): default RET >>> >>> under Default face: ... >>> >>> I replaced only 120 with 140: >>> >>> .... >>> Choice: Value Menu >>> Attributes: [X] Font Family: apple-monaco >>> [X] Width: Value Menu medium >>> [X] Height: Value Menu Height in 1/10 pt: 140 >>> ... >>> >>> Then selecting Save for Future Sessions, does so. In .emacs, I >>> get the >>> following statement, which apparently, if put in there "by hand," >>> without >>> the above steps via emacs' menu, should do the job: >>> >>> (custom-set-faces >>> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. >>> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >>> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >>> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >>> '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "white" :foreground >>> "black" >>> :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline >>> nil :underline >>> nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 140 :width normal :family >>> "apple-monaco"))))) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> macemacsjp-english mailing list >>> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >>> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english >> >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english >> > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Roussanka Loukanova > Computational Linguistics > Dept. of Linguistics and Philology > Uppsala University > P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden > > Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) > +46 18 750 0340 > Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se > URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ > -------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Wed Jan 24 04:27:49 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:27:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 862] Re: How to use carbon-font.el In-Reply-To: <9633834F-0110-1000-AB95-7A4C5A9A4345-Webmail-10024@mac.com> References: <9633834F-0110-1000-AB95-7A4C5A9A4345-Webmail-10024@mac.com> Message-ID: Yes, this works! I've put (just for record) all Seiji's lines in the .emacs, commented all of them, except the ones that seem good to me, and I got the following stuff in my .emacs (if one would like to recycle our efforts and time :) ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;; the following font-size is set from emacs' menu ;; Options -> Customize Options -> Specific Face... ;; note: the last line is a single long line ;; (custom-set-faces ;; ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ;; '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "white" :foreground "black" :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 140 :width normal :family "apple-monaco"))))) ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;; Available font sizes are as follows: ;; 7,8,9,10,12(default),14,16,18,20,24 ;; ;; Available fontsets are as follows: ;; fontset-hiraginomaru Monaco + Hiragino Maru Gothic ;; fontset-hiraginokaku Monaco + Hiragino Kaku Gothic ;; fontset-osaka Monaco + osaka ;; fontset-hiraginomin Courier + Hiragino Mincho (require 'carbon-font) ;; ;; default fontset ;;(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka")) ;; default (12pt) (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka")) ;; 14pt ;; ;; change the fontset of the current frame ;;(set-frame-font "fontset-osaka") ;; default (12pt) ;;(set-frame-font "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka") ;; 14pt ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Hi, > > I examined carbon-font.el and I found that the description is so messy. It took me to read it several times to understand its usage. For record, I will send you its usage. You can put some of the following lines to your .emacs.el. > > -------------------------------------- > (require 'carbon-font) > > ;; default fontset > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka")) ;; default (12pt) > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist > '(font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka")) ;; 14pt > > ;; change the fontset of the current frame > (set-frame-font "fontset-osaka") ;; default (12pt) > (set-frame-font "-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-osaka") ;; 14pt > -------------------------------------- > > Available font sizes are as follows: > 7,8,9,10,12(default),14,16,18,20,24 > > Available fontsets are as follows: > fontset-hiraginomaru Monaco + Hiragino Maru Gothic > fontset-hiraginokaku Monaco + Hiragino Kaku Gothic > fontset-osaka Monaco + osaka > fontset-hiraginomin Courier + Hiragino Mincho > > -- ------------------------------------------------ Roussanka Loukanova Computational Linguistics Dept. of Linguistics and Philology Uppsala University P.Box 635, Uppsala 751 26, Sweden Tel: +46 18 471 1342 (office) +46 18 750 0340 Email: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se URL: http://stp.ling.uu.se/~rloukano/ -------------------------------------------------- From rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se Wed Jan 24 04:38:44 2007 From: rloukano at stp.lingfil.uu.se (Roussanka Loukanova) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:38:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 863] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: ... > > The is also a non-mac-specific way to set the font size, but then I > am not sure you can use the nice carbon fonts. Which is the mac-specific way; which are the nice carbon fonts; and how to get the nice ones? It's good to get everything working, and then choose the nicest things. Roussanka From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Wed Jan 24 07:56:33 2007 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCVyI+PhsoQiAbJEI3STtOGyhC?=) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:56:33 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 864] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: There are two ways to set courier-18 for ascii. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is gnu emacs default way for carbon branch. If you want to use only ascii, this is enough (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font "-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1" "your-fontset") (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "your-fontset")) please read Emacs info. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a way supplied with Zenitani-san's carbon emacs package. If you want to see CJK font with fixed width. Please use this. (require 'carbon-font) (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "-*-*-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-hiraginomin")) ;; 14pt Please read carbon-font.el ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- T. Hiromatsu At Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:38:44 +0100 (CET), Roussanka Loukanova wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > ... > > > > The is also a non-mac-specific way to set the font size, but then I > > am not sure you can use the nice carbon fonts. > > Which is the mac-specific way; which are the nice carbon fonts; and how to > get the nice ones? > > It's good to get everything working, and then choose the nicest things. > > Roussanka > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > From zenitani at mac.com Wed Jan 24 13:12:07 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:12:07 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 865] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <15C887C9-578E-4BB7-9792-3277CA6AEBCB@mac.com> Hello, I have added [macemacsjp-english 860,862] to the FAQ section of the web page. On 2007/01/23, at 17:56, Takashi Hiromatsu wrote: > > (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font > "-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1" > "your-fontset") This one doesn't work for me. Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > Please read carbon-font.el > I don't think the document is easy to understand. Seiji From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Wed Jan 24 20:39:07 2007 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:39:07 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 866] Re: font size in Carbon Emacs Re: Help Emacs In-Reply-To: <15C887C9-578E-4BB7-9792-3277CA6AEBCB@mac.com> References: <159672.92582.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <5C0E5CD5-45A7-49CB-B41B-5330A5AB0B66@mac.com> <3481E610-0956-4257-9D31-601A9D1F6E6B@mac.com> <53765097-21A1-4035-A177-1AAF66C66942@stat.berkeley.edu> <15C887C9-578E-4BB7-9792-3277CA6AEBCB@mac.com> Message-ID: At Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:12:07 -0500, Zenitani Seiji wrote: > > Hello, > > I have added [macemacsjp-english 860,862] to the FAQ section of the > web page. > > On 2007/01/23, at 17:56, Takashi Hiromatsu wrote: > > > > (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font > > "-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1" > > "your-fontset") > > This one doesn't work for me. > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) sorry please use this. (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font "-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1" nil "your_fontset") Takashi Hiromatsu From khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jan 26 13:00:25 2007 From: khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU (Kasper Daniel Hansen) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:00:25 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 867] simbl Message-ID: <68F1273A-27D0-4393-983D-93386C904F77@stat.berkeley.edu> I have found this stuff called SIMBL which basically allows you to install various plugins, one of which allows you to full-screen maximize (aka "presentation" mode) any Cocoa application. I cannot get it to run out of the box with Carbon Emacs (probably not very strange), so I was wondering if it would be possible to add such a thing to Carbon Emacs or whether it is possible at all. While I am not a big fan of presentation mode on big monitors, it is _really_ nice on a 12" powerbook, and my two top applications I would like to have it are iTerm (which work with SIMBL) and Carbon Emacs (which doesn't) (since PDFView already have the functionality) Any insights? Kasper From zenitani at mac.com Fri Jan 26 14:59:22 2007 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:59:22 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 868] Re: simbl In-Reply-To: <68F1273A-27D0-4393-983D-93386C904F77@stat.berkeley.edu> References: <68F1273A-27D0-4393-983D-93386C904F77@stat.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <543374A0-538C-4DF9-870F-EE526AA708CB@mac.com> Hi, Carbon Emacs is written in 'Carbon', not 'Cocoa'. Therefore SIMBL doesn't work. Your possible choices are as follows. 1. The easiest way is to launch Carbon Emacs in iTerm. $ /Application/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -nw 2. You can use the following elisp functions in your .emacs.el. See also [macemacsjp-english 860]. (mac-hide-menu-bar) ;; you can show the menu bar and the Dock by pressing C-f2. (mac-show-menu-bar) (tool-bar-mode 1) (tool-bar-mode 0) (set-frame-parameter nil 'top 0) (set-frame-parameter nil 'left 0) (set-frame-parameter nil 'height 40) (set-frame-parameter nil 'width 100) 3. Try Goby. I think it is rather difficult to install and configure goby in Carbon Emacs Package. http://www.mew.org/~kazu/proj/goby/index.html.en Seiji On 2007/01/25, at 23:00, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > I have found this stuff called SIMBL which basically allows you to > install various plugins, one of which allows you to full-screen > maximize (aka "presentation" mode) any Cocoa application. I cannot > get it to run out of the box with Carbon Emacs (probably not very > strange), so I was wondering if it would be possible to add such a > thing to Carbon Emacs or whether it is possible at all. > > While I am not a big fan of presentation mode on big monitors, it is > _really_ nice on a 12" powerbook, and my two top applications I would > like to have it are iTerm (which work with SIMBL) and Carbon Emacs > (which doesn't) (since PDFView already have the functionality) > > Any insights? > > Kasper > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From pa.news at free.fr Fri Jan 26 16:54:23 2007 From: pa.news at free.fr (Pierre Albarede) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:54:23 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 869] Re: New beta In-Reply-To: <54224D85-06AB-4011-B0E5-7A4A036E564F@mac.com> References: <346863.73496.qm@web55111.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <54224D85-06AB-4011-B0E5-7A4A036E564F@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, Le 21 janv. 07 ? 22:21, Seiji Zenitani a ?crit : > Aquamacs' goal seems to be a Macintosh text editor, > something beyond the traditional GNU emacs. David Reitter > constructed multi-window text-editing environment on the top of > single-window-oriented emacs, by a lot of customization codes. On > the other hand, my goal is a "Mac-friendly" version of the > traditional GNU Emacs. I agree. Moreover, I prefer Carbon Emacs for 2 reasons : 1) I want to maintain the same working habits on all platforms (esp. Mac, linux) 2) Carbon Emacs is more consistent. (Though I have not tried Aquamacs for a year or so.) Pierre Albar?de bat A res Valvert 12 rue Fourane F-13090 Aix en Provence